“In Spain there is a red line that cannot be crossed: blood”

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Accustomed to investigating and recounting what happens within organized crime around the world, David Beriain (Artajona, Navarra, 43 years old) lives ‘captive’ these days in Madrid. He was already preparing the new season of ‘Clandestino’, “a program that tries to understand people who live on the other side of reality and, many times, of legality”, and who returns to be international after his season in Spain , which broadcasts DMax tonight at 22:00.

–How has the current situation affected you?

–Personally, my town, Artajona, was one of the main focuses. We had a very high number of affected and deceased. Although last Thursday was a great day for me, because my uncle Ramón came to the plant after 55 days in the ICU with coronavirus. I am in Madrid, locked up at home, and we had to stop some productions, such as the next season of ‘Clandestino’, because traveling is difficult.

–What will the new season of ‘Clandestino’ be like?

–It is international again. We were in the preliminary investigation and preparing to travel to the first destinations. But we have had to cut it, because, if you see the Foreign map, it is all tinted red, from countries that do not accept Spanish now, or that are in quarantine.

–So you want to get into trouble again…

–’Clandestino ‘is my passion. It is what moves me and what I like to do. He’s my son. I feel like and I have stories parked that take me to jungles, savannahs and the depths of the Amazon that, if I usually die to do, after a few months locked up … more. I am like the bulls in San Fermín: waiting for the ‘txupinazo’ to come out in a stampede. But here I am, trying to train mentally and physically with an exercise bike that I had at home, and that now seems like a very rare commodity and difficult to find.

– Has this situation reminded you of any adventure?

–Yes, after three months I spent in a hotel in the Dominican Republic waiting for some drug traffickers to call me, without being able to do anything. But, obviously, it is not even similar, because there was not the pain of so many people and the anguish. It was simply the anxiety of whether or not what we had planned came out, and the frustration of waiting. There were 30,000 dead on the table.

–Why did you decide to do a season of ‘Clandestino’ in Spain?

–It was a challenge Discovery launched for us. We had been traveling the world for a few years and making those kinds of stories, and they said to me: ‘David, what happens in Spain?’, And the answer we find is that it happens, and quite a lot. Perhaps, in a more subtle way, without the protagonists showing off from other parts of the world. But we are talking about the largest gateway for cocaine to Europe, the largest producer of marijuana in Europe, the third prostitution market in the world, only behind Thailand and Puerto Rico, and a place where a large part congregates. from the international mafias, who see it as a good place to do their business.

– What differentiates it from other countries?

-What makes the case of Spain curious and interesting is that violence is not generated around the control of these traffics, as in other places. Spain remains one of the safest countries in the world. There is violence related to drug trafficking, there is hiring, but they are specific cases, let’s say, within the logic of their business, only as a last resort. Criminality has learned that in Spain there is a red line that they cannot cross, and that is the blood line. The State fights illegality on a daily basis, but when a blood crime occurs, it causes a social alarm that makes the State redouble and concentrate its efforts on that. They know that killing does not cost them. That makes Spain concentrate a very high degree of illegal activities, but without many doses of violence.




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