Abdou Karim Fofana “Can the State allow the country to be burned and bloodied under the pretext of the freedom to demonstrate?”

The Minister attached to the President of the Republic in charge of monitoring the PES was, this Thursday, the guest of the program Yoon Wi on the RFM. Facing the journalist El Hadj Assane Gueye, the head of the APR and BBY in the commune of Fann-Point E – Friendship made a broad review of political news. Selected pieces.

Pan concert and lower weight of the Yewwi coalition compared to BBY

Asked about the new discovery of the leaders of Yewwi Askan Wi, the minister delivered his analysis. “I interpreted the signals very simply. The first thing being that the opposition wanted to get the Senegalese out and lure them into violence. Because the signature of the Yewwi Askan Wi coalition is a compendium of insults, rude remarks and threats. Now they incite the population to invade houses and break everything. But those who are the instigators have not been followed by the people. So they turned to song, dance and ambiance to attract them. It is another way of exercising democracy. In reality, the fact that we came out winners, at the last local, of 38 municipalities out of 46, shows that we are in a different and more audible register for the Senegalese. »

The violence of YAW’s methods

In the political history of Senegal, there is no one who has used violence and manipulation and who has achieved his ends. President Abdoulaye Wade is someone I greatly appreciate because he has brought so much to our country. But you saw that power came to him when he stopped using violence in politics. In the years 1988-1993 during which he was more in turmoil, the Senegalese did not trust him. So what the Yewwi Askan Wi Coalition is doing is not new, we have seen and experienced it before. We have reached a stage where there is disagreement with our democratic culture. Our democratic culture is dialogue: sitting down and talking.

Communication and sense of responsibility at Benno

The need for adaptation to a new context and a new communication environment is taken into account. “As far as political communication is concerned, he points out, we should perhaps review our way of doing things because things are changing. Perhaps when coming to power, there was not this growth of social networks. Those in charge of communication are perhaps more comfortable with traditional methods, ie the media. But over time, there was a breakdown. For example, the 8 p.m. news is no longer the main source of information. Indeed everyone with his phone, can give the information he wants to convey without it being verified. Now there is a Maginot line. To be Republicans is not to use the manipulation which is the method of our adversaries. But being in power, there are things we cannot afford, we have a responsibility. Those who are in the street are devoid of it. ”

Parity on lists and YAW’s relationship to democracy

On the turbulent legal and democratic issues, Mr. Fofana wanted to be clear and precise. “When the electoral code, he recalled, says that we must not be mistaken about parity on the lists, they say that they want to do as they see fit. But the story around parity and the rejection of the lists was the same in 2014, the Supreme Court ruled against the Benno Bokk Yaakar coalition and there are also decisions that were taken by the Constitutional Council. For example, what the Constitutional Council has validated for the lists of Yewwi Askan Wi does not win my support, but we are in a state of law. When the Constitutional Council makes decisions that suit me, I welcome it. But the day when he will not make decisions going in the direction of my interests, I could dispute but in the respect of the standards and to submit to them. So the form of democracy that the Yewwi Askan Wi coalition wants to exercise we will not accept. That is to say, when such a situation does not suit me, it is necessary to proceed in the way that suits me and if this is not the case the country will be set on fire and sword. This is something a responsible state cannot accept. »

YAW inconsistencies

The minister also returned to the inconsistencies of the members of the opposition coalition. “Yewwi Askan Wi, he declared, was not excluded from the elections, the list which was not accepted is a list which did not respect the standards enacted by the electoral code. They realized their mistake and even showed the evidence. When it happened they said Saliou Sarr made the mistake, it was a Monday. On Tuesday, they came out to say that Déthié Fall was wrong. Again on Wednesday they said that it was incompetence because it was Khalifa Sall who did not do what was necessary for the sole purpose of countering Barthélémy Dias. The day that followed, it was Ousmane Sonko himself who came out to say that there had been a mistake, but a few days later they came out to say that they were not going to accept the rejection of the list, that it was a conspiracy. . We are in a state, if we have to apply the law, we apply it in the same way as it was applied in 2014.

Attempts to destabilize the country

Mr. Fofana referred to information related to attempts to destabilize the country and its institutions.
“While browsing the newspaper ‘l’observer’, he revealed, I read that the police and the gendarmerie arrested, during the events of March 2021, people who had firearms in their possession. fire. During these events, it was said that young people came out to demonstrate for Sonko or for the restrictions due to the Covid. But the Senegalese are not in the habit of taking firearms, robbing shops and setting fires. If such acts were committed, it is because there were other implications. In addition, the police and the gendarmerie demonstrated that in future events, an attack was planned in the Cap des biches power stations by a special squadron. Should the state of Senegal let this happen, let people burn the country under the guise of freedom through protests? We have heard them on TV encouraging people to go to the authorities on the pretext that billions of CFA francs are there. People who invite the population to set fire to the prefectures, do these people really love Senegal? Senegal is a country which, since 1960, has been alternating standards. During past local elections, if it were up to us, we would have liked to win in the capital, in Rufisque or even in Ziguinchor, that was not the case but we accepted it. And besides there are people who want to take power without respecting democratic rules. What we can do is ensure that demonstrations declared peaceful will be peaceful. But on the other hand, if with the means of information available to the State, we learn that the so-called peaceful demonstration is only a decoy to do the opposite, we have the responsibility to take the lead and do what must be done. »

Relevance of sponsorship

To the journalist’s question whether sponsorship is not lacking in democracy, the Minister replied: “What would be lacking is to go to legislative elections with 47 lists, of which the 40 cannot have the required percentage of 1%. Democracy is also representativeness. What has been said for sponsorship is quite simple: a person who has the ambition to lead Senegal and its 16 million inhabitants, must have the approval of 1% of those registered on the electoral list. It is a democratic method. In many countries, it is the financial heritage that makes it possible to present oneself as a candidate and to give a deposit, so it is the richest who is chosen. In France there is the sponsorship of elected officials. When a person wants to be a candidate for the presidential election, a significant number of elected officials must write to approve his candidacy. In Senegal we have popular sponsorship and that’s a good thing. »

Majority in the legislative elections

Abdou Karim Fofana also said he was confident in the possibility for BBY to keep the majority in the National Assembly on the evening of the July 31 election.
“The legislative elections, he argues, are somewhat similar to local elections in their departmental component since there are so-called majority lists which are the emanation of the will of the voters living in the departments. If we win 38 departments out of 46 as local, we will retain the majority without counting the proportional vote, so the debate is closed. In view of the latest events, it is the opposition which seems not to be confident in its behaviour; calling for demonstrations and marches to be beaten at the ballot box at election time and then talking about a conspiracy makes no sense. »